Talk:William, Prince of Wales

Did you know nomination

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by AirshipJungleman29 talk 16:29, 22 December 2023 (UTC)

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• ... that Prince William was the first future heir to the British throne to be born in a hospital?

ALT 1:... that Prince William reportedly used the name "Steve" while studying at the University of St Andrews to avoid attracting attention from the media?

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  • Comment: As per Reviewer's suggestion and also because it meets the criteria

Improved to Good Article status by MSincccc (talk). Self-nominated at 16:09, 14 November 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/William, Prince of Wales; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

• Not a review, just a comment, but I do have two suggestions: 1. I think the first hook could go without the mention of the hospital's name since the main point is that he was the first British heir to be born in a hospital and adding extra detail somewhat detracts from the point, and 2. while I think the original hook is pretty good, since this is Prince William we're talking about here, are there any other possible alternative hook suggestions you could give? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 03:24, 15 November 2023 (UTC)

Since this hasn't been reviewed yet, I'll leave this to another reviewer, but I do think ALT1 is the more surprising hook here and thus probably the better option. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 03:08, 24 November 2023 (UTC)

Article is evidently long enough and well written/sourced. It has recently been promoted to GA status. I'll trust that PQP isn't required yet for the nominator. Both hooks are interesting, though I have problems with both of them: the first (1st born in hospital) does not seem to be cited or mentioned in the article and surely, if this hook was to progress, it should say "heir to the British throne" or similar? The second hook (called himself "Steve") has a citation, but only to the homepage of the Herald Scotland, so without a full url, or page number, or access date, surely this citation isn't complete? I'd suggest the word "reportedly" is added to the hook if this one goes forward. Finally, the article has some issues which are being addressed on the Talk page, with reverts and heavy editing of the lede introduction. We might need to wait for this to be resolved before progressing the nomination. Sionk (talk) 21:45, 27 November 2023 (UTC)

Well Sionk the discussion regarding lead has been peacefully resolved and thus you can proceed with the DYK nomination process if possible. (talk)

I've made the change to ALT0. For what it's worth, the hospital thing has been reported in multiple sources before (I remember reading about it before), such as Time and The Independent, so a source should easily be found to report on that. Looking online there are also multiple other reliable sources that mention the Steve thing so this is probably also another case where a source could just be added. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 05:45, 28 November 2023 (UTC)

I've added a better reference for "Steve" (FWIW many of the reliable sources mentioning this trivia item give their source as the Daily Mirror which is of indeterminate reliability, so I've selected a magazine that ought to be reliable, doesn't cite the Mirror, and hasn't been discussed at RS/R). Rosbif73 (talk) 18:50, 28 November 2023 (UTC)

Thanks for improving the source for ALT 1. Before it's approved, I'm wondering whether it should say "Prince William, heir to the British throne, ... considering there are numerous Prince Williams. Sionk (talk) 22:21, 28 November 2023 (UTC)

Sionk Are we going to proceed with the nomination? The status shows that the hook has been reviewed. What's next? Will this ever appear on the Main Page of English Wikipedia. Just seeking an update from you. Regards MSincccc (talk) 10:04, 21 December 2023 (UTC)

DYK good to go with ALT1 hook. Citation query has been resolved. There's no great reason to further amend the hook because Prince William is blue linked. Sionk (talk) 16:54, 21 December 2023 (UTC)

My name is Jodi Rae née Trogstad Brennan

I am a descendant of King Edward III Plantagenet through three of his sons through my father Marvin Edward Trogstad and my mother Donna Rae née Burns Trogstad a.k.a. Delle.

I descend through all of the family members of Fulk V, specifically through King Edward III, his four sons son Edward, his first born, through my mother, Edward's illegitimate line.

I am refuting this page as William Mountbatten is not entitled to the title of Prince nor King.

Charles, William's father, nor his father Philip, or his mother Elizabeth II were with "right-of-rule".

Diana Spencer held noble rights once divorced over Charles her ex-husband, who is of morganatic descent. Camilla knew this fact when she married him, thus she married down and is without right-of-rule.

Elizabeth II's line is of morganatic descent, without right-of-rule, without right to titles, or access to the Royal Crown Estates, or any governance.

The information being spread about in society regarding the Mountbatten's for more of eight decades is treasonous against the crown and is an act of war against the true descendants with right-of-rule and authority of governance over Great Britain or the instilled Parliament in place due to the morganatic nature of the Mountbatten's.

This makes a legal claim to the right to rule by me very severe to Parliamentry members who have held up a false act, 'The Act of 1990's' attempting to take away inheritable rights to seats in Parliament. This law is invalid due to the morganatic nature of the Monarchy and the behavior of parliamentary members is illegal and can be upheld in a court of law as treasonous.

Make the statement clear on this page that William's role is in dispute and the claim is public, William Mountbatte is treasonous against the rightful ruler of the crown claimant, myself, Ms. Jodi Rae née Trogstad Brennan, as I do claim the Crowns of England, Scotland, France, et.al.2600:6C47:A07F:C800:CDA8:CFFC:FB03:B223 (talk) 18:27, 18 November 2024 (UTC)

Prince's title

William is 'The Prince of Wales' not William, Prince of Wales. Leaving the article out implies he is divorced from a Princess of the blood from whom he derives his title. Add the "The" ....Queen Elizabeth established that the article is important during the divorces of Diana, Princess of Wales (note the lack of article) and Sarah, Duchess of York (insert similar comment) 2603:6081:64F0:82D0:E40B:CE9A:D1F7:AEDF (talk) 23:57, 12 October 2024 (UTC)

Nothing's changed since the last time you raised this issue[1], or the one before that[2]. DrKay (talk) 07:06, 13 October 2024 (UTC)

Prince William

even Prince Andrew gets Prince before his name on his Wikipedia page....maybe we ought to pay more attention to accuracy? 2603:6081:64F0:82D0:E40B:CE9A:D1F7:AEDF (talk) 00:10, 13 October 2024 (UTC)

Already discussed at Talk:William, Prince of Wales/Archive 5#Titles. Repetition of redundant word is unnecessary. DrKay (talk) 07:05, 13 October 2024 (UTC)